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know what? youare 100% correct! i would put the them in exact same way! giants with Lt. harry carson and company had best ever!! bears with singletory were great also!! Good list but the Steelers were #1. I know, they beat my Cowboys twice in the Super Bowl. The Cowboys corps from those years ranks right up there too! the only corps i might add is the present corps of the bears with Brian Urlacher,Lance Briggs and Hunter Hillenmeyer(I think he might be getting replaced) although they probably wont last long if lance briggs keeps up his diva act I'd put the steelers at top. I think you got the teams right except for Tampa but I would put the order like this:
1. Pittsburgh Steelers(1974-1979)
2. Chicago Bears(1983-1988)
3. Chicago Bears(2005-Present)
4. New York Giants(1984-1991)
5. Baltimore Ravens(2000-2006)
6. Minnesota Vikings (1973-78)/Denver Broncos (1977) Hard to argue with abustos_ab's 5 picks, except that I'd put Pittsburgh at the top..
The current Bears have to do it more than twice to be "historic". As recently as 2004 they weren't even middle of the road.. The New Orleans Saints from the early 90's clearly belong on that list.
And the only list Urlacher belongs on is "Most Overrated NFL Players." Are you asking who is the best group of outside linebackers/ defensive ends ever? I believe that you are so I will give you my favorite "book ends of all time"
So here is my list is of "book ends"
1. The KANSAS CITY CHIEFS with Derrick Thomas #10 all time and Neil Smith #17 all time (1989 to 1996) Both players individually have over 100 career sacks. They were a much better "combined" pass rushing duo than LT and Carl Banks. Individually LT was better. Carl Banks was the Julian Peterson of the 80's. He was known for his ability to cover backs and tight ends. He wasn't much of a pass rusher. LT was my idol but Derrick Thomas was a close 2nd as a pass rusher to me. DT had 7 sacks in one game. Both KC guys always were in the top bracket of pash rushers.
2 New York Giants with LT #7 on all time list and Carl Banks (1984-1992). They are number 2 simply because LT is the man. Carl Banks was not a very good pass rusher. He was a great open field tackler and pass defender. So to me he is more of the traditional LB not a book end.
3 The Phili Eagles (1986-1993) with Reggie White #2 on all time list (RIP), Clyde Simmons #11 on all time list and Seth Joyner. Simmons and White both have over 100 sacks individually. This defensive front 5 including ( White, Mike Golic (from Mike and Mike in the Morning on ESPN), Jerome Brown (RIP) Simmons and Joyner and are by far the most dominant "pash rushing" D line EVER to me. Even better than the Steel Curtain as "pass rushers". Just imagine if Jerome Brown wouldn't have died. He was Warren Sapp's idol and we know how great of a pass rusher Sapp was in his prime. Joyner always lined up outside of the weakside end and rushed the QB like any other OLB. So there defense was almost a 52 instead of of a 43.
4 New Orleans Saints (1986-1992) with Pat Swilling #15 all time and Ricky Jackson #9 all time. Pat Swilling was the 3rd best pass rushing LB of his time behind LT and Derrick Thomas and Ricky Jackson was the 5th behind Kevin Greene. Swilling had as good of a 5 year run as just about any other OLB before he was traded for draft picks.. They had Sam Mills and Vaughn Johnson on the inside. There nickname was the Dome Patrol. To me the most complete 34 linebacking corp ever. The Giants had one weak spot WILB. One year all 4 of the Saints LB's went to the Pro Bowl and Swilling won the NFL Defensive Player of the Year Award. . Unlike the Steelers of the 70's the Saints had a descent D line. The Steelers LB's never was double teamed and not really even touched because Joe Green the best DT ever and LC Greenwood the DE ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS were double teamed.
5 NY Jets with Dennis Byrd and Mark Gastineau ( 1989-1992)( both pass rushing DE's) Dennis Bird was becoming one of the best DE in the game before he was paralyzed from a head on collision with Mark Gastineau. Both players made it the QB so fast from opposite side they collided grabbing the QB. The crown of byrds helmet hit Gastineau in the chest and paralyzed Byrd. They said he would never walk. Well now he's walking and coaching a high school team. Gastineau had the sack record (22) for almost 20 years. Remember how Micheal Strahan tied the record. It was very weak to me.
The Pittsburgh Steelers with Greg Loyd and Kevin Greene #3 are my honarable mention. Greene made his mark with the St. Loius Rams. He was good with the Steelers but not as good as he was with the Rams.
I didn't put the Bears on this list because Wilbur Marshall one of my favorite ILB of all time would line up over the guard in the 46 D. So he is still considered a ILB.
I played ROLB in high school and college so I idolized all of these guys. I was damn good too because I studied all of these guys moves like clock work. FYI Derek Thomas, LT, Kevin Greene, Seth Joyner and Pat Swilling all weighed between 240 and 245 for there entire career, all were 6'3" and all rushed better from the right side. The protype ROLB is 6'3 243 pounds like LT. I ended up being 6'2" 246 in top shape so I was a we bit thicker. I could give a rundown of old school DE's like Rosie Greer and Deacon Jones or tell you about the man who revolutionized OLB Bobby Bell #78 of the NFL/AFL KC Chiefs but I would be here allday. OLB was my passion in the 90's. Pass rushing is a passion for me. So sorry I put so much info into my answer. I couldn't help it.
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